Wow....what do they call it when people say one thing but do something else....
Yes I'm more comfortable around nonjudgemental, nonselfrightious people, who don't like to gossip to make themselfs look better in their judgmental God's eyes.
i can remember about 2 years before i exited the org i had a terrible dilema which didn't really have anything to do with my doubts in relation to doctrine.. the problem was hearing over and over and over about the fact that being in the org was 'the best place to be'.
that the brothers were 'true friends'.
didn't they have a video out called 'ypa - how can i make real friends?'.
Wow....what do they call it when people say one thing but do something else....
Yes I'm more comfortable around nonjudgemental, nonselfrightious people, who don't like to gossip to make themselfs look better in their judgmental God's eyes.
i guess this as good a place as any to find the love of my life.i been off the board for a couple of years.i'm on match.com as "new libra" i live in portland oregon.
looking for that crazy x-jw or worldly girl.
I thought I get this one out of the bone yard....Two and 1/2 years later.....still looking.
War and piece!
in 1961 my father was disfellowshipped for not doing to the kingdom hall he was assigned to.. if i'm lying...my dying!.
it was the glendora california congeration.
the committee was.. john smoley.
I just talked to a guy who was at bethel in the early 80's. He was DFed because his wife turned him in for being on a 1-900 phone line. He was listening to some women talking about sex....and why was he doing that?
He got DFed for hearing some woman TALK about sex.....because his wife won't talk about sex or have sex with him...
But the good news is she is a pioneer....so she can help others come into the "Truth."
Can't you feel the love?....I guess that is the problem...some of the married ones CAN'T feel the love...or talk about it..
in 1961 my father was disfellowshipped for not doing to the kingdom hall he was assigned to.. if i'm lying...my dying!.
it was the glendora california congeration.
the committee was.. john smoley.
Wait a minute......"This speech is SHOCKING.....who can hear it?"....as I put my hand over my ears..
Thank God I can still read.
Now remember friends these are God's hand picked appointed brothers.....They actually pray back in Bethel to see if these men should lead the poor flock.....
This elders have no pride....no favoritism, and most of all speak for god. Plus they come from all walks of life.....With the best Qualifacations.....many are truck drivers.....janitors.....construction workers.
How could they screw up?
I'll never forget my ex-father inlaw, Elder Ben Reagan, Janitor from Newport R.I. This guy looked and acted like Gomer Plye.... He was the dumbest person I ever meet!
He is on the phone with this poor black sister, that just got the shit beat out of her by her 300 lb. husband....and I swear to God this is what he said to her "You must have done something really wrong for him to have hit you....just have another beer and forget the whole thing!"....his answer for everything.
Of course the JWs say....imperfect persons who make mistakes.....
But remember there are NO mistakes in the organization...the "Light only gets brighter"
in 1961 my father was disfellowshipped for not doing to the kingdom hall he was assigned to.. if i'm lying...my dying!.
it was the glendora california congeration.
the committee was.. john smoley.
Why should I be afraid If I speak the truth?
in 1961 my father was disfellowshipped for not doing to the kingdom hall he was assigned to.. if i'm lying...my dying!.
it was the glendora california congeration.
the committee was.. john smoley.
In 1961 my father was disfellowshipped for not doing to the Kingdom hall he was assigned to.
If I'm lying...my dying!
It was the Glendora California Congeration. The committee was.
John Smoley
John Shanhouster
and Red Chements
Didn't cry for years...I was shut down....
Then the 2 movies that broke me down....I felt....were both JW related.
Elephant Man....were he says "I'm a man not and animal".......in the Bethel bindry we had to beg just to leave are machines just to take a piss....and
Sophie's Choice....with the Nazis...whatever she did she was screwed...she was the walking dead.
Now I cry over everthing even T.V. commericals. My picks
Schinder's List
Forest Gump
Finding Neverland....I found out I never really had a childhood.
LEGENDS OF THE FALL.....family stays together and says....."F....k the government"
The Green Mile.....People want to kill someone even if it's the wrong person.
Glory
Dead Poet Society
Scent of a Women
The Mission.....Ah the guilt will kill you ever time.
Brave Heart
Field of Dreams
Shawshank Redemption....people in Prison who didn't deserve it....ring a bell?
Field of Dreams
and last but not least Always...."What a Jerk I turned out to be"
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Didn't cry for years...I was shut down....
Then the 2 movies that broke me down....I felt....were both JW related.
Elephant Man....were he says "I'm a man not and animal".......in the Bethel bindry we had to beg just to leave are machines just to take a piss....and
Sophie's Choice....with the Nazis...whatever she did she was screwed...she was the walking dead.
Now I cry over everthing even T.V. commericals. My picks
Schinder's List
Forest Gump
Finding Neverland....I found out I never really had a childhood.
LEGENDS OF THE FALL.....family stays together and says....."F....k the government"
The Green Mile.....People want to kill someone even if it's the wrong person.
Glory
Dead Poet Society
Scent of a Women
The Mission.....Ah the guilt will kill you ever time.
Brave Heart
Field of Dreams
Shawshank Redemption....people in Prison who didn't deserve it....ring a bell?
Field of Dreams
and last but not least Always...."What a Jerk I turned out to be"
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as some of you are aware i am in the early stages of doubting the wts as the only channel of truth.however i am assailed by feelings of guilt.am i being seduced by the words of disgruntled witnesses or ex-witnesses or am i truly doubting !
!maybe some of you felt this way in the early stages of your "defection" from the wts.sometimes i feel as though i am rejecting god and his organization but other times i feel so strongly that the wts has misled me and is acting to control my "loyalty" by vieled threats of destruction at armageddon.you see prior to becoming a jw i had no religious affiliations.i knew nothing about the bible or god.so for 20 yrs i have only known watchtower teachings and un-learning 20yrs of this is making me so indesicive.am i doing the right thing or not ?
my only solace is prayer.i have prayed to god to show me in some way what the truth really is.i must admit that these prayers have been the most heartfelt i have ever said.have others felt this way and if so how did they deal with it ?i would truly appreciate some feedback.
Don't feel bad it took me 52 years to figure it out!
Here a simple test for you. Go back to your KM stand at the back for a few minutes and go up and down the rows there, look at everyone who is sitting there...and ask yourself this question " Is this person look like a HAPPY person?"......If you look at their faces you will see the answer......and then ask the most important question.....are you a happy person seating there?......Of course they will tell you that your happiness is not important...
After all they are NOT worshiping a happy God anyway ......They are worshipping a mad "pissed off" God who they think will be killing 999 people out of 1,000....soon.
6 million Jws.... 6 Billion people on the earth....do the math my friend.